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things like this happen and of course it will take much longer, but let's get to it. we have michelle franzen on the scene, and clint van zandt profiler and msnbc analyst, and psychologist jeff grandier, and caroline mccarthy who entered politics after her husband was killed in a multiple shooting on a suburban commuter train, and we have the head of the national association of school safety and also we will go to my colleague michelle franzen. thank you for staying with us tonight. >> well, hi, chris. we are here in the knnewtown ar of connecticut miles from sandy hook, connecticut, where the tragic shooting took place today. right now, hundreds of resident s are gathering at a nearby catholic church for a vigil to for those lives of young people who were shot today. they are holding a prayer vigil to comfort the families who were told that they had lost their loved ones in this town. it is a small new england town in area, and very rural area in the central part of connecticut here. the school certainly k-4 as we mentioned, we don't have identifycations tor age-- of th schoolchildre
. michelle franzen joins us, our reporter from newtown, connecticut. michelle, this is a small town, 26,000 people. a school which is highly popular because of its success, has a very good reputation. what can you tell us about the scene there now? >> reporter: well, certainly, martin, we're at the press briefing area, but it's a short distance away from the elementary school where the shooting took place this afternoon or early this morning. this afternoon we received this new briefing from law enforcement who arrived on the scene early this morning saying that they'd practiced for drills like this, but the emotions that are now enveloping this community are great, and he talks about how the community is coming together. they've already held several prayer vigils in this area. another one scheduled for tonight at 7:00. this community, of course, as you mentioned, very small community. by some standards, 26,000 people, that elementary school was only k through 4. that means 5-year-olds through 10-year-olds at that school that were exposed to this violent and tragic scene that played out
partyiers. joining me now is michelle cottle, washington correspondent for "newsweek "and "the daily beast" and ezra cline who is a policy analyst. thank you both for coming on the show tonight. >> thank you. >> thanks, rev. >> michelle, let me start with you. the president ran on raising taxes on the rich and he won on that premise. why didn't the gop get the message? >> oh, they got the message but this is high posturing season. they have to get in there and be as intransident as they possibly can. the president has said that he wants tax rates for the wealthy on the table. so they are just going to push this as far as they can. they are going to kick this can down the road again. >> now, ezra, you wrote today that speaker boehner's trying to call a mull lee began. what do you mean by that? >> i'm drawing on my very shallow message of golf. he wants a do-over here. so what speaker boehner's proposal is today, i give him some credit here, this is the most moderate proposal he's made in public by a long shot. he's taken the proposal that erskine bowles presented to the super committee as a
. and michelle cotter, washington correspondent for the daily beast. thank you both for joaning me. >> representative dilldillen, d governor snyder think we need more guns in schools after what happened in connecticut? >> well, i certainly hope not. >> he had to sign a bill to pass the legislature as we said in the wee hours thursday night that would allow guns in schools, churches and day care centers. i hope that the governor listens to common sense here and takes this tragedy to heart and vetoes this bill. >> michelle, as spokesman for the coalition in michigan the coalition for responsible gun leaders says if you have pistol zones, they're actually mass murderer empowerment zones. >> you know, that would be laughable if it weren't so sad. >> you can say this is a bizarre aproemp and a bizarre reasoning, but it's not new. i can't think of a time that we had this kind of response in the wake of someone's tragedies. you always had someone pushing back saying well, if only someone in that area would have been armed, we could have ended this faster. but that just seems about as coun
. pretty cool, huh? >> and a little later what we can expect from first lady michelle obama in her second term. that and a christmas story that is bound to warm your heart. we begin with this live image from honolulu, hawaii where the president and first lady have just arrived. hundreds of hawaiians started gathering saturday to welcome the senator home and pay respects. inouye was a recipient for the medal of honor for his braver. kristen welker joins me now from honolulu. a warm christmas, i see. >> reporter: yes indeed. it is lovely here. >> the president is on christmas vacation and so is congress. that doesn't mean they don't have work to do as the fiscal cliff looms. i take it this is a working vacation. >> reporter: white house officials have described this as a working vacation and talks are going on behind the scenes between white house staffers and hill staffers. the reality is the bulk of this probably won't get done until after christmas when lawmakers are expected to resume negotiations. there is a lot of frustration especially among senior members in both parties in part bec
." karen finney and michelle cottle. karen, if i might begin to you, let's start with the breaking news. i want to start with your reaction to news this hour the supreme court will rule on california's gay marriage ban and the defense of marriage act. should same-sex marriage advocates, karen, be nervous or pleased about this? >> i hope that history will show they should be pleased and that this will be the day that, you know, this process where in the same way that loving v. virginia opened up rights for people like my parents to get married, this will be the beginning of the decision where we recognize that same-sex couples should enjoy the same rights and benefits of marriage. i hope it is the start of what is the american journey for expanding rights of every american. >> given the current composition of the court, i am nervous. i do not yet share karen's optimism. i'm concerned the court will move to take away the rights of gay people to get married and let states block it where they want to. i think we would need to focus on two people. where does justice kennedy go? and he's being i
about the victims are beginning to emerge. nbc's michelle franzen standing by in newtown, connecticut. michelle, the names have been released. i understand that all six of the adults who were killed were women and all of the children are between the ages of 6 and 7 years old. is that correct? >> reporter: yes, that is correct. most of them, we're told, in the first grade. and certainly, we are getting a little bit more details on some of the names, of course, and soon to be the faces of these teachers, as well as the students, whose lives were taken so violently, so abruptly that school morning, yesterday morning. as you mentioned, we heard the names that have come out, but we've also heard details about the shooting and many seasoned workers, the medical examiner, the officers, the first responders here, also needing to have, you know, assistance and have counseling during this time, to give you an idea of just what a situation unfolded in that elementary school. we also have been, throughout the community here today, and there is a big outpouring of emotion, as well as reaching out.
on the dramatic rescues. >> reporter: the video camera michelle got as a christmas present captured it all. >> that's not funny. >> reporter: christmas day day a man on a sled came down on a hill and fell through thin ice of jackson lake. then one after another those who tried to save him fell in. >> it turned in to a disaster. a panic. people falling in. people trying to save him then trying to save themselves. >> give me the rope from under the seat now. >> reporter: that's the voice of michelle's husband. >> i undid the rope. threw it out. it's a 25-foot rope but seven feet short. at that point we noticed this guy didn't know how to swim. we observed him go under three times. >> call 911 right now. >> reporter: more people went on the that fragile ice including children. then another rope attempt. another one in and then the man who tries to save him as well. inner tubes and sleds. finally -- >> get it. come on. go! >> reporter: rope to pull them to shore. >> in southern california, it just doesn't get cold enough for anybody to be out on ties. they are very fortunate everybody came out
by a group of folks who know firsthand what a big difference a helping hand can make. nbc's michelle franzen has more. >> reporter: at the amtrak station in new orleans, volunteers from nearby swidell hard hit by katrina are on a mission organizing and packing up pallets of diapers, shoes, and blankets. the second run of donations for hurricane sandy victims. residents and firefighters here paying it forward. >> specifically we were focused on trying to make it better for the kids up there. >> reporter: in addition to basic supplies, this so-called train of hope will be filled with holiday toys all bound for sandy's smallest victims. >> reporter: 30 hours later the train rolls into newark, new jersey's penn station. 27 pallets in all, half the toys go to the marine's toys for tots program. the rest end up here at engine 155 ladder 78 in staten island. >> our own version of the polar express. >> reporter: children of firefighters, kids who lost everything in sandy's wake get to pick out brand-new gifts. >> we lost a lot. he lost all his toys. so it feels good to be on the receiving end. >> es
's a political battle for the ages. we'll tell you why first lady michelle obama and former president bill clinton are going head to head. you're watching "politicsnation" on msnbc. >>> i just spotted mitt romney at costco again. go ahead and return that oval rug you ordered. [ male announcer ] now's the perfect time to buy an adjustable version of the most highly recommended bed in america. the tempur-pedic ergo system. treat yourself to the ultimate sleep experience and save up to $400 during the tempur ergo savings event. plus visit tempurpedic.com for full details on our 0% apr financing with up to five years to pay. don't wait. five-year special financing ends december 10th. visit tempurpedic.com now. tempur-pedic. the most highly recommended bed in america. >>> have you joined it the "politicsnation" conversation on facebook yet? we hope you will. today everyone was speculating about what jim demint's resignation means with the tea party. he says they are definitely weak tea. susan thinks that they will attempt to brand themselves for 2014. and barbara says, this tea party thing has
is a good time to come and visit her? because i'm the queen so i need a lift down there. >> michelle, let's start with the duchess's condition and how she's doing, at least what we know so far. >> we don't know that many details other than unfortunately what was revealed in that prank phone call but it was nice to hear from kate herself today. she actually responded to the press when people yelled out questions to her. she said she's doing much better thank you. and you could see it in her face. the big smile. the two of them as well as the palace, as much as they've tried to maintain their privacy, i mean who wouldn't want privacy during this obviously, have been very gracious to the press. the palace has released a number of statements and both william and kate have sort of given indications even if it's just in their expression on how they're feeling and how they're doing. thomas? >> again, a lot of well wishers around the globe want to see nothing but the best for them. michel michelle, thank you very much. i appreciate it. >> how changing demographics is changing the gop strategy. an
in hawaii, first lady michelle obama took phone calls from some lucky kids who are tracking the progress of santa claus through a site set up by norad. as it turns out, a record number of those kids and adults were looking for reel time updates on st. nick. as of midnight, trackers answered more than 111,000 calls. that is 4,000 more than last christmas. pretty cool. >>> major markets ended christmas eve on the downside, but who could be gloomy with santa on hand to ring the bell. chris botti jazzed up the stock exchange with a little christmas cheer. some 17 million shoppers were out yesterday with gift cardeds, wine and liquor topping last minute flicks. netflix suffered a massive outage which it blamed on the cloud network. acer is reportedly looking to launch a $99 tablet early next year. >>> if you are looking for last minute gift or maybe a bite to eat this morning it, starbucks, ihop and equal green's should all be open today. >>> it will be a short merry christmas for members of congress with the country perched on the precipice of what some are calling fiscal disaster. lawmakers
wrong in the election as if it's some weird kind of formula. but i think michelle, and you, reverend, and i, can save them all of this money and tell them right now what happened here. they don't have to have this commission. they are becoming a party of conservative, white males from the south in a country that doesn't look like that. that's it. full stop. they don't need to waste their precious party dollars on anymore studies of this. >> but, michelle, you see some interesting things developing for senator jim demint, about to be former senator jim demint. was on glen beck talking about how the two of them can work together. >> you can be a huge help because i think you've -- you've kind of brought a softer touch to what we're talking about. communication, which you're a big part of, is going to be key. so we're going to have to parter in with people in the media. >> jim, i -- go ahead. i would love to sit down with you a.s.a.p. >> now, i mean, this kind of personalities, like glen beck and them, aren't they part of what drove them all the way to the far right? >> well, look, jim
. the nonsense going on shows the tea party still runs the speaker. joining me now is michelle cotter, washington car respondent for "the daily beast" and co-host here on msnbc. this is a bad joke. who is running this party? >> clearly, the tea party is running is this. we had a nation that voted for obama's plan to raise taxes on the wealthy. >> that's a good idea. we should raise taxes on the 2% wealthiest people in america. but there's this group of people on the far right that will vote them out of office. they will put up somebody farther right than the people we have in washington and get them out of office. so they're all afraid to vote for a modest tax increase of people who can totally afford it. and that small group of people is dominating this discussion to the detriment of the entire nation. >> john mcccain said this. interesting it has interestingly become clear that the party is against everything and for nothing. nothing on taxes to you. nothing on gun control. nothing on climate change. nothing only gay marriage. nothing on immigration reform on incremental peace approach which wi
's field. guys like my dad do not campbell on candidates like michele bachmann or newt gingrich. guys like my dad who compare to joseph stalin or adolf hitter and guys like my dad don't cozy up to texas governors who brag about seceding from the union or call social security unconstitutional. crazy didn't win, joe, but it also pulled down the nominee. >> the nominee wasn't willing to stand up to crazy. >> early on. >> there were so many times he could have turned, mike barnicle, to michele bachmann, let's say. who said something outrageous. wait a second. i'm a conservative. are you kidding me? to herman cain -- >> sarah palin. >> and all of these 0 other things that were going on, crazy never wins. but we learned another thing. you'd better stand up to crazy if you want to win in bucks coun county, pennsylvania, win in the i-4 corridor, if you want to win in the suburbs, if you want to win in the places where elections are actually won. >> well, i would ask you, john heilemann, as a key observer of the electoral scene, was not the die cast for mitt romney and perhaps, you know, the rest o
of those lost inside the walls of sandy hook enmen tear. joining me now is nbc's michelle franzen. she is there with the youngest victim noah pozner's being laid to rest there. we see the activity behind you. the families asked for privacy. you and the journalists are respecting that. but obviously, they've expressed i guess details about their children. they do want the world to know. >> reporter: well, that's true. they have made a spot for the media here. they know this is one of the first funerals for 20 beautiful little faces that we have come to learn about over the last few days. noah pozner, of course, 6-year-old who died on that day in the gun fire and a short i'm toog, a streddy stream of relatives and friends pouring out of an emotional ceremony. we spoke to a rabbi who visited and attended the ceremony today. he said it was full of poignant moments about the little boy, full of emotion and even little noah's mom spoke and one of the things she said up there and she gathered strength, she called her son her little man so we're hearing a little bit more about these little per
? >> that's why i think the michelle fonoi, the first couple of the years of the obama administration, important voice during the reelection campaign, i could see her becoming very attractive. is the president really going to go out and announce three white men as a national security appointees? could well happen if they are the right people, he could well do that, but you could see michelle coming in there, also being considered as the number two now at the pentagon, ash carter, and choosing him would be acknowledgment that the defense job is a huge management job. that's an unbelievable enterprise in a huge period of transition and cutback. there needs to be somebody who can really run that organization, and whatever senator hagel's gifts, those aren't it. he's not a manager, not someone who's going to have the ear of that building. that's why you saw an editorial in "the washington post" today really going after the hagel idea and saying he'd been out there calling the pentagon bloated. i don't know who's going to argue with that, but it's not a great way to come in the door. >> a
mean you,ed have had all of the advisers at post election conference saying it wasn't. michele bachmann put a ton of time, resources and that didn't turn into anything, as you well know. the governor has said it's irrelevant we should move beyond it. when you have governor of the party saying we should move beyond it and the top consultants on the last campaign saying, yeah it doesn't matter, you know, i think it's probably losing its significance. >> michele bachmann won the ames straw poll and finished sixth, sixth in the iowa caucuses. the other one i thought was right on, saving money to advertise in october is a good idea. turns out not, why? >> this, i think, could have the most lasting impact going forward that will be interesting to see in 2016. as you well know, the obama campaign made an early decision to define mitt romney in may and june, coming out of the primary. went right into the states, sort of framing him as a plutocrat who didn't care about the middle class, mitt romney campaign reserved time for the fall, put $20 million into the fall but he was already defined. it
. joining me now is michelle, former under secretary of defense, cofounder for the center of new american security. this is a major statement by the new leader. he's, obviously, trying to shore up his own reputation internally, but it is -- is it without consequences? nothing we can do, given china's continuing support, condemnation, but continuing support for pyongyang. >> it's clearly a provocation, it's clearly a violation of the u.n. security council resolutions against north korea. it is important china did come out and condemn this. north korea probably listens to china more than anybody else, but i do think the international community needs to make good on the consequences. >> what's the concern now, they have a nuclear test, they have a real delivery system? >> it's still many years to get, or at least some years, to get a ballistics capability to threaten us, but these things tend to come in cycles, and so it's not a good sign that they are starting down the provocation road again. >> given how heavily sanctioned they are, why are they doing this? >> this is really about shoring
like michele bachmann or newt gingrich. guys like my dad tune out politicians who compare opponents to joseph stalin or adolf hitler. and guys like my dad don't cozy up to texas governor who is brag about seceding from the union or call social security unconstitutional." crazy didn't win, joe, but it also pulled down nominee, i believe. >> because the nominee wasn't willing to stand up to crazy. >> early on. >> and there was so -- early on. there were so many times, he could have just turned, mike barnicle, to michele bachmann, let's say, who said something outrageous and go, wait a second, i'm a conservative, are you kidding me? or to herman cain, or you know, when sarah palin was riding around, calling barack obama a socialist, bordering on a communist. and all these other things that were going on. crazy never wins, but we learned another thing. you better stand up to crazy, if you want to win in bucks county, pennsylvania. if you want to win in the i-4 corridor. if you want to win in the sub b suburbs of columbus, ohio. if you want to win in the election, in the places where el
would be approved for president obama. and another path said that michelle obama would do well. right now she leads republican senator mark kirk of illinois 51-40%. >>> so a new congressional report shows wasteful spending of tax money that was intended for counter-terrorism purposes, some of the worst examples, the homeland security department paid for a hog catcher in texas. a fish tank and an underwater robot in a midwest city with no major rivers or lakes nearby. former republican senator allen simpson has a message, use the tools to sign up people for the can kicks back campaign to avoid the fiscal cliff and cut the national debt. the 81-year-old simpson went "gangnam style" to make his point. ♪ >> i have a bum knee. horse, horse. ride the horse. >> senator, thank you for that. and that's your morning dish of "scrambled politics." and now for a look at your national weather, let's turn to bill karins. he has your weather channel forecast. >> the best part is the underwater robot for a place that doesn't have water. >> maybe it's a pool. >> yes. >> and they need to inspect it. >
. shoppers will be buying a record $29 billion in gift cards this year. nbc's michelle franzen may be picking up one herself. she's in the manhattan mall here in midtown, new york city. how busy has it been today there? >> you know, it's building. it is building as the -- every hour goes on, everything gets a little more crowded. the stores are full, but so are people's hands with bags when they walk out of here. today of course is a day where people are coming in, they have that list, they need to get things done nap's because time is running out. not your typical sunday stroll at the mall today nap's because many are getting an early start because they got a late start to the shopping season. with just two days left to go before christmas, the mad dash is on for holiday shoppers. >> got three boys and wife to finish shopping for, and nine in-laws coming. so it's going to be tense, you know, last couple of days, i'm sure. >> reporter: a mysterious mix of shoppers wrapping up or done. >> i'm not a last-minute shopper at all. i probably have been ready since before thanksgiving. >> reporter: a
to say michelle obama. not only because her husband won, because she doesn't have to campaign again which she hates, but because she sailed through the election. and, now, she can do the biggest stuff about obesity, the biggest public health challenge in this country, frankly, the whole western world faces. frankly, she can do what she wants. >> i going to go with claire mccask erksz lrksz l. not only because she won her race, but because she became the face of what republicans were doing. the craziness of their believes which we saw in erm thes of women's rights. >> jonathan? >> i would say that the 47% were the winners of this election because they told mitt romney and the republican party to stuff it. they got off of their lazy, unprincipled, immoraled behinds and got up there and vote ds for president obama. >> i got to go with the obvious one. president obama. his policy has been vindicated, his approval rating is rising. he's likely to oversee a recovery. he really, truly, was the big winner this year. >> i would go with jonathan with the 47% or even more of 99% because i think that
more tragedies like this, regardless of the politics. this evening, michelle and i but part of it is also looking at other sources of the violence. frankly, in my hometown of chicago are not using ak-47s. we're going to have to come together to prevent more tragedies like this regardless of the politics. >> regardless of the politics, that is the crux from tucson to aurora to being reelected. congresswoman caroline mccarthy joins us. >>> the msnbc policy analyst ezra klein put together a long piece today tying together what he knows about ezra, of course is a policy guy. so he was looking at this through a policy lens. and the data it turns out, some of it is what you might suspect. but some of it really isn't. for example, we all know that there are a lot of mass killings in the united states. gun violence where multiple people are killed by the same assailant. this year alone before what happen today in connecticut, five people were killed in an atlanta suburb in february. a student shot up his high school cafeteria and killed three people later that same month. at that ch
living in some type of fantasy world. >> don't expect to see michelle obama's name on ballot any time soon. at least not according to david axelrod. >> you know, i think she sees her role much more as a private role. she's done a wonderful job with her kids. she will find ways to make contributions, i'm sure, but the last thing i think she would do is run for public office. >> the white house is getting flooded with requests to legally recognize the baptist church as a hate group. we the people petition already has more than 288,000 signatures. the kansas based group is known for protesting funerals. still no response from the white house yet. congressman ed markey is hoping for a promotion. the -- senator, dem democrat, from massachusetts plans to run important the vacant senate seat. that is if john kerry is confirmed and elevated to the secretary of state. markey serve medical the house since 1976. >>> if divorce settlement of the former italian prime minister, reportedly is a whopper. he has to pay his second ex-wife $4 million a month. a month. yes. a month. >> that's crazy good
michelle florinoy who was in the pentagon earlier in the administration -- >> highly qualified woman. >> that's right. and would give a little diversity to the intelligence picks -- the national security picks that they're going to put out, it could now look like the president was ruled twice in a row, and that's why former defense secretary bill cohen told me today that if the president is going introduce senator hagel, he should do it now, despite the other things going on in the world because, otherwise, it's going to look like critics on capitol hill are picking the president's national security team. >> meanwhile, senator kerry waits in the wings to be nominated to be secretary of state, and what about the possibilities to run for senate in massachusetts? take a look at this from a hearing yesterday on the congo. >> my name is ben affleck. i am the founder of the eastern congo initiative. we are the only u.s.-based grant-making and advocacy organization entirely focused with -- focused on working with and for the people of eastern congo, a region that has the unwanted distinctio
. this evening michelle and i will do what i know every parent in america will do, which is hug our children a little tighter, and we'll tell them that we love them, and we'll remind each other how deeply we love one another. but there are families in connecticut who cannot do that tonight. and they need all of us right now. may god bless the memory of the victims. and in the words of scripture, heal the brokenhearted and bind up their wounds. >> much like the president of the united states, americans are experiencing a wide range of emotions tonight. and it's difficult to process them. these are photos no one will be able to forget, the sight of crying children being led away from a scene of mass murder should shake the country to its core. and it has. the question must be asked, how many more scenes like this one are we going to see? as a nation we need to do something, and something has to be done. this tragedy stopped the country in its tracks and brought the president of the united states to tears. as a parent, as an american, as a human being it's hard not to have the same feelings tha
's michelle franzen has the latest in this report. good morning, michelle. >> reporter: alex, these are the names and the faces of this tragedy, the bright boys and girls who were just learning to read, write and learn about their world. and the teachers and school employees who sacrificed their lives to save others. they are the youngest victims of the sandy hook shootings, 12 girls, eight boys, first graders, gunned down just as they were beginning the school day. 6-year-old emilie parker, loved to draw and was always smiling, according to her dad, robbie. >> emilie was bright, creative and very loving. >> reporter: fought back tears talking about how proud he was of his little girl. >> my daughter, emilie, would be one of the first ones to be standing and giving her love and support to all those victims. >> reporter: classmate ana grace marquez-green. her grandmother and uncle live in puerto rico and told a newspaper they were traveling to connecticut saturday to mourn with ana grace's family. ♪ there is also 6-year-old jesse lewis, a neighbor told the connecticut post h
pool even. michelle cottle of the daily beast spoke with analysts who suggest that a presidential run would inevitably complicate hillary's advocacy work and risk tarnishing her shimmering global brand, even if it ultimately opened up greater possibilities. errol, is that a fair hypothesis? >> it's a fair hypothesis, but it's exactly the kind of risk she has been taking her entire life. you mentioned an office pool. it would be the easiest money you could make would be to assume unless you see something otherwise written in stone you have to assume that she is going to run for president. she has spent her entire life, her entire life, even before she became an adult of trying to learn more about the major issues of the day and have an impact on them. she has been in the white house and seen what you can do, whether it's, you know, don't ask don't tell or welfare reform, how you can move the mighty levers that only the white house has control over. to assume now that she wants to be thought well of and sit in some foundation office, i don't think so. >> and beth, you've got to think th
for first lady michelle obama but there's talk about her plans for the future. could they involve the white house in 2016. plus still so many unanswered questions about what happened and why an nfl player killed his girlfriend before taking his own life. the team and the football league what they can learn from this tragedy. >>> breaking news coming to us out of atlanta, georgia. an elementary school has been evacuated after an incident of carbon monoxide poisoning. students and adults were taken to a hospital after being overcome by fumes. >>> a bittersweet victory for the secretary of state chiefs after the murder/suicide. the head coach who watched aso van belcher took his life on saturday spoke about the tragedy after the game. >> it's tough when circumstance happen you can't undo them. so you have to rely on each other, rely on your family, friend and rely on your faith and that's what the team tried to do. we were able to do that. >> joining me is rob from nbc sports. as we hear more about this story. so tragic. 25 years old. this young man. his girlfriend 22 years old. the parents wa
-immigrant. >> not necessarily they. that he was -- >> why did he. >> he was worried about the other primary opponents. michele bachmann was still in the race. they were really worried about governor perry. when governor perry got into the race their fund-raising fell down and the romney campaign did not quite realize that governor perry, you know, was going to be as bad a debater as he was. if they had known that, they never would have said any of this stuff but this just opens up a bit -- >> but i'm telling you db maybe you can't agree. i have an opinion. my opinion is if they're willing to say no student in state division for people who come here because their parents brought them here which is a normal break you give a kid who knows up in texas. what a rotten approach to take to win a couple points against perry. >> but this was his whole campaign was basically a businessman's approach and accommodating product for the consumer, and the consumer in the primary was a conservative voter u just as a consumer in massachusetts was a liberal voter and the general election was different. he thought he had to come
at this next photo, and this is the president greeting michelle obama as she arrives in iowa before the election. that's a great picture. just the anticipation. >> you know, andrea, too, with that one, i think what's fascinating about it is both their relationship, which i think really did help frankly president obama in this election from his wife's speech at the xwengs all the way to the fact people liked him even if they didn't like his policies, they liked him as a husband and father. iowa is a place with an emotional hold for the obamas. that was the place where his campaign first won the iowa caucuses and began it all. >> this next picture is superstorm sandy. the president with mike bloomberg and janet napolitano touring the damage. you can just imagine how grim that tom donlon -- i'm not sure if tom is also in the picture. you can see what they're looking at. >> right. you know, the one that -- he's not in this picture, but what jumps in my mind is the criticism that chris christie got over saying nice things when president obama went up to new jersey to tour the devastation
of it the obamas will have a fun holiday. >> the white house is ready for christmas. today first lady michelle obama has given a tour and that is not it. >> there's been a lot of soul searching going on at fox news. and i am confident that they eventually will find one. >> i think they park better than i do. >> psy said some anti-american things. ♪ >> no big deal. we don't believe psy. >> controversy erupts after president obama embraces a rapper once calling for the death of innocent americans. >> he was caught on camera shaking his hand. he's not going to stand up for our brave men and women in the military? that's pretty sad. >> we have specifics coming out of our eyeballs. i'm very confident we can take the smat. we're doing to win this race because people know we need a better future for this country and i don't think people are hoping for four more years of this mess. >> let's get to our panel. jonathan capehart is an msnbc contributor and karen finney is an msnbc political analyst and the former director of communications at the dnc. karen, the rnc has just announced something called
president obama this afternoon. a bit more of his remarks right now. >> this evening michelle and i will do what i know every parent in america will do which is hug our children a little tighter and we'll tell them that we love them and we'll remind each other how deeply we love one another, but there are families in connecticut who cannot do that tonight, and they need all of us right now. in the hard days to come, that community needs us to be at our best as americans, and i will do everything in my power as president to help. >> kristin welker, thank you, my colleague from the white house. you know, i think what we call the operative sentence or words in this speech today, wonderfully emotional and so personal as a father, was meaningful action. what's the take on that, the takeaway from the president saying meaningful action to prevent this from happening again? >> reporter: well, chris, i think that it's a sign that the president was as defiant and angry in some senses as he was emotional this afternoon. he made the point that we have seen too many of these mass shootings in our commun
in florida. no secret service around, where were they? also the record-setting victory tweet with michelle obama, that famous photograph on the cover of "the economist," two images that got so much play on social media. >> it was amazing. the famous hugging incident at the peaches shop happened in charlotte, after the convention, president obama came after that feeling very happy and obviously one of his fans in florida was also very happy. the secret service, they had their eyes wide at that event. looked like a friendly guy, nobody was going to interrupt it and turned out to be one of the great photo opportunities of all time. the hug went out after election night after we knew obama had won picture of the two of them hugging. retweeted more than a million times. it's a social media landmark. >> unbelievable. thank you so much for joining us. we appreciate it. >> thank you, sir. >> what political story will make headlines in the next 24 hours? that's next. coming back. start and finish with jonathan cape hart. doesn't get better than that. >> which political story will make headlines in
an accident. >> stephanie: step on a bag of vipers. michelle obama versus bill clinton in the spoken word category -- [♪ "world news tonight" theme ♪] >> i think michelle obama will take bill clinton. >> stephanie: i am so enjoying a bill clinton corkscrew. i do not have the hilary nutcracker yet. conservative actor steven bald win arrested for failing to file three year's of tax returns. [♪ "world news tonight" theme ♪] >> uh-huh. he is one of those fake christian guys. >> stephanie: he is accused of owing more than $350,000 to the state of new york. >> wow. maybe we can bad mouth bono some more. >> stephanie: everybody hold your jokes. [♪ "world news tonight" theme ♪] >> stephanie: john travolta collects hot chocolate. he collects various kinds of hot coco from around the world. he said it represents winter wonderland and christmas. he went on to explain how people should handle hot coco. he said never blow on it. never ever blow it changes the quality of the chocolate. >> that's the gayest thing i have ever heard. >> if you have a gay sex scandal with three dif
fathers, this is the core fear for all of us that love black men in this country. it is what michelle obama said about barack obama in 2008. he could be killed at a gas station. >> it is not just everyday indignities of being followed around or denied a job. we see it in stop and frisk and racial profiling. we are seeing it, it seems, more now. justifiable homicides are up. psychologically, whether people go into these situations saying i'm going to use my stand by ground law rights. how does that reinforce what they already think in the buys as and the confluence of that. >> part of this is also related to violence. when young black boys and men die, it tends to be at the hands of other young black men and boys. that also even in our failure to stem that violence, we also then provide more opportunities for thinking of black men and boys in this way. in an interracial con text, that becomes part of that. >> we forget, black men are the most victimized group in america, not just perpetrators but the victims. >> thank you to joy and ari and trumani. >>> women are fighting for the right
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